Saturday, September 29, 2012

Support the Invermere Deer Protection Society

Please donate to the Invermere Deer Protection Society.  Their precedent-setting court case will be heard in January, 2013. 

http://www.invermeredeer.com/

Some local governments have already implemented the mass killings of deer in our province, moving quickly to avoid public notice and outrage.  The IDPS action speaks for many in this province.  Go to the donate button on their website and show your support.

Photo courtesy of Susan Vickery.



Friday, September 28, 2012

DeerSafe Victoria rally September 26, 2012 at the Victoria Conference Centre where the Union of BC Municipalities met on the week of September 24 - 28.

Thursday, September 27, 2012

Anti-deer cull protesters target municipal talks

As cities across B.C. look for solutions, group presses for alternatives to killing

By Judith Lavoie, Times Colonist September 27, 2012


A deer suit is too warm for a sunny Victoria day, but a little sweat is worthwhile if councils can be persuaded to look at alternatives to killing deer, said May Dicastri as she stood outside Victoria Conference Centre on Wednesday.
"The idea of something dying over a flower garden or a vegetable is ludicrous," said Dicastri, one of about three dozen demonstrators trying to catch the attention of municipal politicians attending Union of B.C. Municipalities meetings.
The Capital Regional District is struggling with the question of what to do about deer and a report from a citizens' advisory committee, suggesting everything from sharpshooters to a change in fence-height regulations, has gone to municipalities and staff.
But Greater Victoria is just one of many areas dealing with deer complaints. Culls have already been approved in Cranbrook, Kimberley and Invermere, where a legal challenge is underway.
That's why Kelly Carson of DeerSafe Victoria decided to pool resources with groups from other communities and form the B.C. Deer Protection Coalition.
"We are going to be doing more outreach with other groups and inviting other grassroots groups in," said Carson, who hopes to organize a meeting with B.C. Environment Minister Terry Lake to talk about alternatives to killing the deer.
Protester Irene Pabsdorf suggested protecting gardens by tying a string with white plastic strips above fences.
"Or, if you don't have a fence, dig in fish fertilizer or bone meal - and they don't like human hair," she said.
But for farmers, the problem is more serious than lost tulip bulbs, and fences aren't always practical.
Jack Mar, who has farmed on the Peninsula for more than 50 years, said he will not even try growing strawberries next year. His raspberry canes were nibbled down twice this summer.
"The damage is twice as bad as last year. The number of deer has really increased," he said.
Farmers are allowed to shoot five crop-eating deer a year, but many, like Mar, cannot discharge a firearm on much of their property because fields are within 100 metres of a road or a building.
Fencing is not always practical on leased property, Mar said.
"Our property on Martindale Road is 75 acres and it's costing me $2 a foot to fence - and that's doing my own work," he said.
Dan Ponchet of Dan's Farm and Country Market has fenced his property and said that has stopped his deer problems.
"I have just been doing it over the last 20 years every time I lease a new field," he said. "Now my major issue is the geese."
One of the suggestions that has been made is that deer could be shot and eaten or farmed.
Deborah Berkes, who farms non-indigenous fallow deer at White Stag Game Ranch on Sparton Road, said there is no provision in provincial laws for farming the black-tailed deer found on Vancouver Island, she said.
"Our animals all go to a provincial abattoir with an inspector. I'm not sure how you would do it with wild deer unless you captured them and put them on a farm."
And that would not be easy, Berkes said. "Try and lasso that deer that's out nibbling your roses and you'll find out how wild he really is," she said.
However, there is a taste among consumers on Vancouver Island for deer, a low-fat meat, Berkes said. "We sell everything we produce here."
jlavoie@timescolonist.com

Saturday, September 22, 2012

Deer protection groups opt for united front

By Judith Lavoie, Times Colonist September 22, 2012

Deer protection organizations from across B.C. are coming together in an effort to pool their knowledge and persuade their municipal councils to look at nonlethal options to control deer.

"We have been talking about a coalition for a couple of weeks," Kelly Carson of DeerSafe Victoria said. "Little grassroots organizations are popping up and a coalition can stop everyone from reinventing the wheel."

Communities across B.C. are facing the same problems and municipalities are relying on the same material and reports, Carson said.

"The grassroots groups have the passion and the compassion to really do the research even though [municipal governments] tend to ignore us," she said.
 
"We feel a coalition would give us more clout."

Devin Kazakoff, of the Invermere Deer Protection Society, will speak this weekend in Victoria at the first meeting of the B.C. Deer Protection Coalition.

The Invermere group has filed a lawsuit against their town council that is expected to go to court early next year.

In Greater Victoria, where the Capital Regional District has been grappling with the deer question, directors have received an exhaustive report on deer management from a citizen's advisory group with suggestions ranging from hiring sharpshooters to easing rules on fence heights.

CRD staff are now looking at which recommendations are practical before the province is asked for help.
"It's a hot potato because the province has to come forward with what they are willing to fund and then it will fall back on individual municipalities," she said.

Some of the pressure for a cull has come from Saanich Peninsula farmers, who already have the right to shoot five deer per year to protect crops, Carson said about her group's efforts to oppose a regional cull.

"It's a vocal few that are causing these problems."

jlavoie@timescolonist.com

Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Penticton targets deer discussions

By Steve Kidd - Penticton Western News
Published: September 18, 2012 3:00 PM
Updated: September 18, 2012 3:08 PM
 
When Penticton councillors head for the UBCM convention this weekend, deer is going to be one of the top things on their to do list.

Three ministerial meetings have already been scheduled for the Penticton delegation, including one with Minister of Environment Terry Lake to discuss the urban deer management issue.

Responding to complaints from residents about a burgeoning population of deer spreading farther into the city, Penticton began considering a deer cull last year, during a previous council.

Three communities — Kimberley, Cranbrook and Invermere — held culls earlier this year, but Penticton held off on the contentious issue, preferring to gather data through deer counts before pursuing a cull.

“We are in the process of setting up our fall deer count. That is coming up in the next few weeks,” said Anthony Haddad, director of development services. “Discussions with the minister are obviously an important step in dealing with this matter, potentially as a joint approach with other cities that are in the same position as Penticton.

“But again, council needs to be informed, through the count process, prior to making their decision. So we will be reporting out when the fall deer count is completed.”

Kimberley, Grand Forks, the Regional District of Okanagan-Similkameen and Invermere will be joining with Penticton, Haddad said, in a joint approach to the ministry, discussing issues around urban deer management. Invermere, he continued, is of special concern to communities considering a deer cull.

Invermere has been in legal battles since trying to cull 100 deer in February. A temporary court injunction slowed the start of the cull, which, in the end, only included 19 deer.

Now, a civil suit filed by the Invermere Deer Protection Organization against the District of Invermere is slowly wending its way through the courts.

The suit is seeking to overturn the cull bylaws and gain financial compensation for 14 people named in the suit claiming stress, loss of appetite and sleep and emotional distress due to the cull.

“We are keeping an eye, like all communities that are dealing with this issue are, on the Invermere court case. There has been a huge amount of resources spent on that issue. I believe around November or December that is going to court,” said Haddad.


Public and Media were under the impression that the Planning Committee meeting on Sept 19 would include the deer issue on the agenda

No clear solution to Victoria region's deer problem

By Daniel Palmer - Victoria News
Published: September 04, 2012 4:00 PM
Updated: September 07, 2012 11:25 AM
 
The original version of this story stated a public input meeting would happen at the Sept. 19 meeting. CRD officials have since clarified that a public input meeting will take place later this fall.

Deer advocates and antagonists are being given one last chance to weigh in on how to deal with the frequently sighted animal in city limits.

The deer management citizens advisory group submitted its final report to the Capital Regional District last week, with recommendations ranging from sharpshooters on rural properties to subsidized fencing for farmers.

“The (advisory group) strongly believes there is clear and convincing evidence that deer in the CRD and that deer-human conflicts are on the rise,” the report states, adding the number of deer appears to have increased in recent years.

The report also calls on municipal and provincial governments to create stronger partnerships with First Nations groups to expand deer harvests, improve crop protection for regional farmers and establish a public education program for all accepted recommendations.

On Wednesday, the CRD’s planning, transportation and protective services committee will examine the report.

Directors will evaluate the general recommendations as well as those tailored to agricultural, rural and urban areas before creating an implementation plan.

Vic Derman, Saanich councillor and vice-chair of the committee overseeing deer management, cautioned that the recommendations are not set in stone and still need to undergo scrutiny in the coming weeks.
“We’re a steering committee for the board, and we’ll ultimately be making the recommendation to the board,” Derman told The News.

"There will be a full meeting dedicated to (public) input, and I expect it to be a long meeting,” he added.
The public input component of the process will take place in the coming months, said CRD spokesman Andy Orr.

Provincial numbers put the Vancouver Island deer population between 45,000 and 65,000, while there is no estimate for the Capital Region.

Monday, September 17, 2012

FOCUS ON FACTS, NOT FEAR

Letters written to prey on the fears of people regarding deer and disease compliment the junk science the county is using to justify hunting in our parks. A glaring omission is the mention of the real danger, weapons being used in neighborhoods.

Deer exclosures are the county’s proof there are too many deer. Jim Slinsky, host and producer of the "Sportsman's Connection", a nationally syndicated, outdoor-talk radio program states: Fenced deer exclosures are not science. They are deceptive political tools to rally the public around a deer reduction program.

Regarding disease, the American Lyme Disease Foundation does not advocate for deer killing programs to control the spread of Lyme. Ticks carry Lyme, not deer. The black-legged tick was named after the White-Footed Deer mouse. Ticks feed on 50 different species of mammals.

Studies found the elimination of deer actually caused tick "hot spots"
or high concentrations of ticks on small areas of land. Other wildlife such as rodents brought infected ticks into the area resulting in tick concentrations. ("Localized Deer Absence Leads to Tick Amplification" by Sarah E. Perkins et. al., Ecology, 2006).

A Senior Scientist from the Cary Institute of Ecology writes: A comprehensive review of the scientific literature on the relationship between numbers of deer and numbers of ticks reveals the majority of studies find no statistical correlation... deer do not infect ticks with Lyme bacteria, and actually reduce the infection prevalence in tick populations;” Richard S. Ostfeld, Ph.D., Lyme Disease: The Ecology of a Complex System (2010, Oxford University Press).

Claims that humans will catch TB or hemorrhagic disease are irresponsible. Cases of bovine TB in wild deer are extremely rare. No evidence exists that EHD is transmissible to humans. The Michigan Map of Bovine TB Zone provides readers a good graphic.
 
Focus on facts, not fear.

Susan Rhem-Westhoff
Defenders of Urban Wildlife, President
Spring Lake Township

Thursday, September 6, 2012

September 5 Planning Committee re Deer Management


CRD looks to province for deer help

Solutions lie outside local governments' jurisdiction: Ranns


By Bill Cleverley, Times Colonist September 6, 2012

The Capital Regional District will need buy-in from provincial and municipal governments if there is to be any hope of dealing with problem deer, says Metchosin Mayor John Ranns, chairman of the CRD committee looking at the issue.
"A lot of this is dependent on the province changing some of its regulations [and] providing support in certain areas," Ranns said Wednesday after his committee received a citizen advisory group's deer-management recommendations. For example, he cited lengthening the deer hunting season or allowing for the sale of game - both areas of provincial jurisdiction.
"We also have to know, from the municipalities, are they prepared to look at some of these recommendations and change their bylaws? Is Victoria prepared to change their fencing bylaw? Is Central Saanich prepared to change their shooting bylaws? Things like that."
Tabling an exhaustive 168-page report, the citizen advisory group made a number of recommendations ranging from allowing hunters to kill more deer to easing rules on fence heights.
After considerable discussion, the CRD committee referred the advisory committee's report to staff, who are to bring together provincial, municipal, First Nations and possibly federal representatives to try to determine which of the recommendations are practical and supportable.
Implementing many of the recommendations will require cooperation from several governments, Ranns said.
"I want to make sure that before the [CRD] board gets these things that we know that the province will back it up. If they're not going to back it up, I'm going to wipe my hands of it," Ranns said.
Any move toward a deer cull would be made against a politically charged backdrop. This week, Ranns received a petition with more than 1,000 names against any cull.
"It's a primarily urban-based petition," Ranns said "I think the petition is valid in that it's saying to the City of Victoria or Oak Bay or places like that, 'Look, we recognize there are certain measures that have to be taken, but don't go out and shoot the deer in our backyards.' "
Ranns hopes some changes can be made before next spring.
"My objective as chair is to see some relief for the farmers by the start of the growing season. Now that is dependent entirely on agencies that are outside of our control," Ranns said.
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM DEER ADVISORY GROUP
The citizens advisory group tailored options for deer management in three areas - agricultural, rural and urban - with many recommendations overlapping.
Recommendations for both rural and agricultural areas include:
? allowing hunters to shoot more deer
? extending the public hunting season
? expanding the First Nations harvest
For urban areas, the group suggested:
? landscaping alternatives
? public education on deer-resistant
plants and repellents
? delegated authority from provincial to
local government to deal with aggressive deer
? bylaws prohibiting deer feeding
? incentives for fencing
? changing regulatory barriers to effective fencing such as restrictions on height and placement
The report suggests possible use of sharpshooters on large properties including parks, post-secondary institutions, golf courses and government-held properties such as Government House.
It also suggests deer could be captured and euthanized.
Other suggestions include:
? improving road signs to reduce the number of deer and vehicle collisions
? increasing driver education about deer
? changing regulations to allow meat to be used after deer are killed
? establishing a region-wide public education program to better inform the public about deer behaviour.
The report said public education is also needed to increase awareness of health concerns such as Lyme disease.
- Bill Cleverley

Tuesday, September 4, 2012

No clear solution to Victoria region's deer problem


By Daniel Palmer - Victoria News
Published: September 04, 2012 4:00 PM
Updated: September 04, 2012 5:10 PM
Deer advocates and antagonists are being given one last chance to weigh in on how to deal with the frequently sighted animal in city limits.
The deer management citizens advisory group submitted its final report to the Capital Regional District last week, with recommendations ranging from sharpshooters on rural properties to subsidized fencing for farmers.
“The (advisory group) strongly believes there is clear and convincing evidence that deer in the CRD and that deer-human conflicts are on the rise,” the report states, adding the number of deer appears to have increased in recent years.
The report also calls on municipal and provincial governments to create stronger partnerships with First Nations groups to expand deer harvests, improve crop protection for regional farmers and establish a public education program for all accepted recommendations.
On Wednesday, the CRD’s planning, transportation and protective services committee will examine the report.
Directors will evaluate the general recommendations as well as those tailored to agricultural, rural and urban areas before creating an implementation plan.
Vic Derman, Saanich councillor and vice-chair of the committee overseeing deer management, cautioned that the recommendations are not set in stone and still need to undergo scrutiny in the coming weeks.
“We’re a steering committee for the board, and we’ll ultimately be making the recommendation to the board,” Derman told The News.
“Later this month, there will be a full meeting dedicated to (public) input, and I expect it to be a long meeting,” he added.
The public input meeting will take place Sept. 19 at 1:30 p.m. in the CRD boardroom, located at 625 Fisgard St.
Provincial numbers put the Vancouver Island deer population between 45,000 and 65,000, while there is no estimate for the Capital Region.

Saturday, September 1, 2012

Capitol Region Considers Recommendation to Let Hunters Kill More Deer

Critics upset by 'trigger-happy' recommendations CRD will consider


By Bill Cleverley And Judith Lavoie, Times Colonist September 1, 2012


Deer, such as these on a Saanich lawn in May, are a controversial issue in the region.

Deer, such as these on a Saanich lawn in May, are a controversial issue in the region.

Photograph by: Bruce Stotesbury , timescolonist.com (June 2012)

Allow hunters to kill more deer, deploy sharpshooters on large urban properties and ease fencing regulations.
Those steps are among the suggestions, released Friday, from an advisory committee tasked with finding solutions to the capital region's deer problems.
The Citizens Advisory Group was appointed to explore the issue amid complaints that the number of deer has increased in recent years, resulting in substantial damage to urban gardens and agricultural crops.
In its 168-page report, the committee tailors options in three areas: agricultural, rural and urban, with many recommendations overlapping.
Urban recommendations include landscaping alternatives, public education on deer-resistant planting and repellents, delegating provincial authority to local government to deal with aggressive deer, bylaws prohibiting deer feeding, local government incentives for fencing, and removing regulatory barriers to effective fencing such as restrictions on height and placement.
The report calls for possible use of sharpshooters on large properties including parks, post-secondary institutions, golf courses and government-held properties such as Government House. It also suggests deer could be captured and euthanized.
"All options, including population-control measures, should be carried out in the most humane manner possible, and in particular, should avoid inflicting suffering on deer through actions that expose deer to an undue risk of starvation or injury," the report says.
Recommendations for both rural and agricultural areas include allowing hunters to shoot more deer, extending the public hunting season and expanding the First Nations harvest.
Among the other suggestions:
- Improve road signs to reduce the number of deer and vehicle collisions.
- Increase driver education about deer.
- Change regulations to allow meat to be used after deer are killed.
- Establish a region-wide public education program to better inform the public of deer behaviour and control options. Public education is needed to increase awareness of health concerns such as Lyme disease.
Capital Regional District directors will discuss the report next week.
Metchosin Mayor John Ranns, who heads the committee reviewing the report, said it will be up to directors to distill options and come up with something that works. "What I anticipate happening is we will review the options and probably send a number of them back to staff to see how feasible they are," Ranns said. "Then we're going to bring it back to another committee where the public will have lots of opportunity to speak on what we've come up with."
The report is already drawing the ire of those who oppose killing deer. Susan Vickery of the Earthanimal Humane Education and Rescue Society said the committee has given in to farmers who want more freedom to kill deer. "My immediate focus went to 'reducing the population to natural levels.' It appears over and over again through the report," she said.
"We should step back. No knee-jerk, trigger-happy, immediate gratification," she said.
A lack of numbers in the report is a concern, Vickery said. The committee said information wasn't available on deer population and income losses suffered by farmers.
The report will be discussed Wednesday at a special meeting of the CRD's planning, transportation and protective services committee. While the public is welcome to attend, no delegations will be heard at the meeting.
To read the committee's recommendations, click here.
bcleverley@timescolonist.com
jlavoie@timescolonist.com

Glenn Jim Responses to July 25th Blog Post (With Permission)

From:
To: deersafevictoria@yahoo.ca
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 4:12:06 AM
Subject: DeerSafe Victoria Comment: July 24 CAG meeting commentary/Blog


As I read this commentary of the meetings proceedings, it really opens my eyes to the level of hypocrisy that the author is showing. Why would you try to make me look heartless in quotes taken out of context or by misguiding readers? Especially since you don't know me or the work that I do or my background!

You fail to mention why capture and relocate is rated low, the Province's Biologist do not support this option due to the high mortality rate of the affected deer!

At this meeting I also stated that in my cultural beliefs that 'Anecdotal" information can be treated as scientific as well and carry just as much weight as empirical evidence. I trust the words my elders have taught and shown me about the natural world and how we as human beings live within it and how the symbiotic relationships exist between all the Creators creatures...I didn't ask them to "prove it" Why did you not report this in your blog?

You say I "liken deer to cockroaches and rats". You fail to mention that in the context of my analogy it was that as creatures are removed (professionally exterminated in the case of the roaches) a vacuum is created and they just return. and yes, I still will say that they are like rabbits and rats, and other mammals that procreate in large numbers. Without a predator or means to abate their proliferation, they will overpopulate areas.

A question...why is the phrase "these meetings" emphasized within quotation marks without an explanation. I certainly did not put emphasis on my speaking it and you are not giving reasons for your doing so. Again you fail to provide more contextual information as to why I would not be attending more of "these meetings". As I mentioned in the meeting...I was going away on planned family holiday. And i would continue attending when I returned.

Also, thank you for quoting me from my presentation at the Traditional Foods Conference from 2010. It must mean you "Googled" to find out more about me. I hope others read the entire article to put this quote into context in which it was given.

As a final comment, thank you for allowing me to respond and counter your report to your blog, albeit a somewhat biased and somewhat deceptive account.

Glenn Jim

p.s. - One last question...Why was this CAG meeting a bit different, as the articles title suggests?




Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 10:11:08 -0700
From: deersafevictoria@yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: DeerSafe Victoria Comment: July 24 CAG meeting commentary/Blog
To:

I very much appreciate your email. This is the first time anyone has reached out from within the deer management process as devised by the CRD to create dialogue.

It was not my intention to personally offend you, but I can understand why you would see it that way. You may have noticed that I have quoted other CAG members on the blog – words that came out of their mouths that would not be reflected in the minutes.

I personally don't agree with capture and relocate and say so during my outreach to the public, for the very reasons you site. I also failed to mention why “Repellents” were rated low. I trust that residents will read the CAG minutes from the CRD website to find out why they came to the conclusions that they did.

The Deer Management Strategy claims to rely on scientific research by experts based on the Urban Ungulate Conflict Analysis, yet the CAG members were told to guess at the best practices, as directed by the facilitator at the July 4 meeting. Based on the claim that research is integral in a process such as DMS, anecdotal information should not be driving this process.
When you said you would not be attending “these meetings” it was unclear whether you were referring to your capacity as an expert on the ERWG or as a citizen on the CAG.

How can you favour a cull when you know that professional extermination creates a vacuum and they will just return? Far-sighted options that will allow the deer to find an equilibrium that they can live with makes much more sense, as does educating the public to co-habit with the wildlife that has as much right (or more) to be here than they do. A battle is being fought, and I've taken the side of the voiceless. Would they be polite or feel a need to explain themselves when their homes are ripped up by machines and paved over, with the survivors labeled as pests due for extermination?

I also hope that others have read the pdf from the Traditional Foods Conference. It is an important insight into traditional food gathering that so many in society are unaware of.

If you would like me to delete the blog entry, I will do so for you personally. My intentions have always been to expose the DMS for the manipulative exercise that it has been since it's conception. I bear you no ill will.

Kelly Carson



Thank you for your quick response Kelly. 

I don't think you need to delete the DeerSafe Victoria blog entry but clarify the statements in the context they were intended, or post these emails to the blog so readers are given that factual information you endeavour to have. 

I personally have served my community all my life in various capacities to make my community a better place and my integrity and honour is at stake. The blog attempts to convince people with factual information, which may be true in most instances but if it is done with deceit or deception due to lack of contextual information, all is for nothing and CRD residents are not able to make sound choices. 

As i said in my email, anecdotal evidence has its place. I believe it is justified to be used in this case. Let's just agree to disagree on this topic.

I dont believe going on holidays has any relevance to attending further meetings as a representative of either committee that I sat on, I stand by my earlier email comments.

Favouring a limited cull with other management options is a viewpoint I hold. I said this at the July 24th meeting, public education was also included in that statement. There are many other options as well as you can read in the posted final report.

As a last comment, i would like to relate a story shared by my wife when i was first appointed to the ERWG/CAG. It relates to her peoples traditional practices in her home territory in the Yukon. Back in the day, the elders would annually monitor wolf dens over a wide range. In the Spring, the men would go to the wolf dens and cull a small number of cubs from many litters scattered over their vast territory. This was done to ensure there was less competition for the valuable moose resource her people relied on for survival. It wasn't done out of malice or hatred, it was done so the populations of all affected stayed healthy and strong. It was part of the natural processes that evolved for them. This situation is similar. I don't hate deer, for many years I wouldn't hunt them because I felt sorry for them when they were killed. I know they have purposes in my life as a source of healthy, organic food source; and as a source of other things related to my culture. As a matter of fact, i highly respect the deer for that. I thank the Creator for allowing me to take this animal and providing my family and community with these things. So I don't make these choices lightly. In this instance, there is a need to reduce the different conflicts between the deer and the CRD residents, the RDMS is the tool to reduce some of that conflict.

Respectfully,

Glenn Jim